Saturday, February 1, 2014

FY 2014 Tax Rates for Carver (we're #2)

The Fiscal Year 2014 tax rates are in, ours went up by more than 4%

Town/city: Carver

Date of rate approval by state: 12/17/2013

Residential rate - FY 2014 = $17.01

Residential rate - FY2013 = $16.34

Residential rate, 1-year change = 4.1%

Commercial rate - FY2014 = $23.64

Commercial rate - FY2013 = $22.70

Commercial rate, 1-year change = 4.1%

Industrial rate - FY2014 = $23.64

Industrial rate - FY2013 = $22.70

Industrial rate, 1-year change = 4.1%

SOURCE: Massachusetts Department of Revenue

We're #1 Here is a comparison with other area towns 
FY14 Residential Property Tax Rate comparison

update 2/3/14- We're #2 (headline corrected). I've been reviewing additional towns in the area and noticed that Halifax has a higher 2014 residential property tax rate than Carver:



  1. You forgot to mention valuations. As you (should) know, the rates have an inverse relationship to valuation, and it's the combination that is important. Unless you also post the change in valuation for each of these communities, your figures are meaningless.

    So, is the intent of this post to inform, or to propagandize?

  2. I forgot to mention valuations? REALLY? No, that's not my job. This isn't propaganda either, just sharing some data that I found. The source of the information that I collected and presented here, they don't have information on valuations. If they did, I would have included it. Since you seem to think that you know so much, here is an idea. Why don't you create a webpage that compares the tax rates and the valuations? That would be cool. But I guess it's tough to do when you prefer to post anonymously. Good luck with that project, I look forward to seeing the results.

    For those interested in reality, here is the link where I got the data for this informational article:

  3. Let's talk valuations. The valuation of an average cranberry bog in Carver was $2008 per acre in 2006. It hasn't changed in ten years. I'm sick of people like Dick Ward and Jack Angley pushing new spending while their taxes are being subsidized by residential taxpayers.Ward whines about the problems of the cranberry industry. When a resident gets laid off his taxes don't go down they go up! Ward is selfish he will convert his bogs to solar without regard to his precious rural character or the interests of his neighbors. Ward should be forced to pay his full fair share of his spending projects and not get special breaks. If they weren't receiving the breaks you can bet they wouldn't vote for the spending! The combination of valuation and rates are important. Residents pay more than 3/4 of the taxes in Carver and that's up by more than 10% in the past two decades. That percentage increase is because we've been forced to subsidize the cranberry industry. Anyone who thinks Phil is propagandizing is not a residential taxpayer in Carver.I don't need a website to tell me I'm getting screwed by the good old boys of Carver.

    1. It's not my plan to bash one group of residents or another on this blog. I want to get a discussion going on the many reasons that could go into a high property tax rate (compared to other towns). It's better to try to make a point using hard data and facts, without getting personal or else the point loses validity. There has been some good valid points made here, valuation for example. Let's try to move it forward in a positive way. thanks

  4. Phil, I couldn't comment on your facebook post so I just wanted to drop in to say something here (this is Bruce from France, formerly of Marshfield). I was a residential real estate appraiser for 20 years in eastern Mass. and I always heard people complaining about their tax rates and what the first poster said is absolutely important. Tax rates are only 1/2 of the formula and assessments are the other 1/2. In general I found the wealthiest towns had the lowest tax rates but the highest valuations and the less wealthy towns had the highest tax rates but the lowest valuations. In general, when a town's tax rate would increase the majority of home valuations would decrease and vice versa. This is based on 20 years of observing this as an appraiser. Did most people's home valuations in Carver decrease when the tax rate recently increased? Did your own home valuation recently decrease? I was in assessor's offices all the time and I can't tell you how how often I would hear people come in and bitch about either their valuation increasing (and not noting that the tax rate had decreased) or the tax rate increasing (but ignoring that their valuation had decreased). Property valuations are based on market factors and when home values in the market decrease so don't valuations (and vice versa), but there is always a lag because town's valuations are based on sales from the previous fiscal year, due to the fact that it takes time to compile this data. Often towns don't do revaluations except for every few years because it costs a lot of money to do this. I'll also note that assessed values often have little correlation to actual market value because the town's valuation is based on mass appraisal models, which could never be as accurate as an appraiser going out and spending several hours determining the value of a single home. If Carver has higher tax rates compared to nearby towns you also need to consider where the tax base comes from in each town. Perhaps there is more of a commercial/industrial base to draw revenue from in those towns thereby reducing the tax burden on home owners. I could go on and on but the point is that as tax rates increase valuations decrease and vice versa.

    1. Thanks for chiming in from France, Bruce! I'm adding to my "to-do" list to follow up and try to get the valuations. Great points!

  5. It's not your job to post complete information so that your readers can make informed decisions? That just doesn't make sense. You might as well say that it's not your job to tell the truth. Of course it isn't (though it is your responsibility), but then why would anyone listen to you?

    The problems is with all of your "data" is that data presented in isolation is a half-truth. You are using such half-truths, apparently intentionally, to push your political agenda.

    The mere fact that you don't feel the need to tell your readers the whole truth tells us a lot about how you feel about both your readers and your agenda.

    1. It's not my job to post info to support your political agenda, that is your job. The topic is 2014 residential property tax rates, I provided some data. The fact is, Carvers rate is higher than each town listed, and it's higher than many additional towns. Sure there are many factors involved, this is a great discussion starter. I'd like to hear from as many opinions as possible on this.

  6. Thanks for the comments! I agree, valuations are important in the bigger picture. This post was specific as a rate comparison, I understand that there is a bigger picture. Another part of that bigger picture is what you get for your taxes. Many of these towns have new schools, police stations, fire stations, and even all of the above. Carver needs all of these things. This is an important election coming up I hope this topic is part of the campaign.

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